there’s always the people who play to play vs the people who just play for loot or play for the excitement of progression. when sunwell is out, many people will come back, but some of the damage is for good.

good luck to you guys!

-grouch@simple math

While I’m not saying that its bad that they’re finding other things (maybe healthier things) to do than playing WoW, it still isn’t something good for the raid group itself.

Definitely an achievement to “beat the game” though is it ever really beaten when they come out with new content… you guys could all take an agreed-upon hiatus

I’ve posted a response to some of the comments here: http://lorelol.blogspot.com/2008/01/hi2u-wow-insider.html

Please take a look at it; my opinions have been blown out of proportion pretty heavily.

There’s always PVP for people who want to still log in for 8 hours a day.

What’s that? They’ve already got s3 kit? Well, erm was that the only reason they were playing? For kit or for the winning?

There is no need for Blizz to rush sunwell out just for 2% of players.

My own guild is in BT, but our progress has slowed primarily due to the inability to handle -natural- attrition, let alone whatever you’re suffering because you ‘beat the game.’

Attuning people and keeping up with filling slots has kept us from pursuing Bloodboil and I doubt we’ll have much time on Illidan, let alone Sunwell, by the time WotLK invalidates it all.

If anything, Sunwell will be Naxx for BC, where only a smidgen of the playerbase will see any of it and it’ll be coming too soon to WotLK’s release. So if Blizzard takes their sweet time implementing it, I could care less. More focus on PvP balance and fixing things for the lower tier, IMO. You obviously have no issues with the game if Illidan is dead.

But the fact of the matter is that the other 90% of players in WOW have not gotten to where you are and probably never will.

My own guild is working on Serperntshire now and only just downed Mag a couple of weeks ago. And though I know its a far cry from where you are, a huge majority have not seen the instances I’ve already done, let alone the one’s you’ve done.

Bottomline, I’m falling more into the camp that Blizzard should start concentrating less of its efforts on instances/gameplay where only the top 5% will ever get to see.

That’s just my point of view though.

The answer though I would like to know is why has some quit raiding alltogether in the guild and why some have quit the game alltogether? Is that just due to no new content to attempt to complete beyond the BT. Is it they are just bored? Is it they are tired and frustrated with raiding alltogether and due to something else other than the 25 man content that some are so frustrated that they quit the game alltogether?

Inquring minds would like to know.